THE AWAKENING TIMES (TAT): What can you tell us about Vinča? What`s the story behind it?
SEMIR OSMANAGIĆ (SO): The story of Vinča is much broader than just any story of a distant historical period. It is a story about a set of values, those human values that should be universally established.
TAT: Where does the story start?
SO: The culture of Vinča dates back to about 5,000 years before Christ (BCE). However, very little is said about it and even less researched.
TAT: Why is that so?
SO: Vinča civilization is older than 7,000 years. It is about 9,000 years old. We can say that the history of the last 100,000 years comes down to civilizational cycles, unlike what we are taught in schools, that 10, 20, and 30,000 years ago we were at the primitive level of cavemen. The last 100,000 years is a history of cycles, where civilizations would reach their peak and then disappear under global catastrophes. One such particular global catastrophe happened about 12,000 years ago. Massive amounts of ice melted, huge earthquakes happened, tsunamis caused waves as high as 1,000 meters, and volcanic eruptions occurred as well. More than 99% of humanity was wiped off the face of the planet Earth.
The first culture which appeared on European soil after that was Lepenski Vir, located on the river Danube. There were five cities on the Serbian side and two on the Romanian side of the river. This is the period that science calls the Mesolithic or Middle Stone Age. Two thousand years later, the Neolithic, i.e. the Younger Stone Age, began. The first oasis in Europe during the Neolithic period was again in our region and was called Vinča. It was not a culture but rather a civilization. The term “culture“ is still used by Western scientists (Vienna, Berlin, London, and Paris), and they imposed their opinion on our authors too.
TAT: What is the difference between a culture and a civilization?
SO: Both have basic elements such as demography, population, territory, etc., but what civilization has on the plus side are cities, as opposed to mere population centers inhabited mainly by the agricultural population.
Five thousand years ago, the first cultures that appeared had agriculture as their main activity. Cities appeared only later. One distinguishing factor of a city compared to other areas is that more than 50% of the population activities are non-agricultural, such as production, trade, finance, goldsmithing, and other industries, such as metallurgy. All these elements were part of the great Vinča civilization. This civilization used to cover huge territories, from today’s Hungary, over half of Bulgaria, all of Serbia, Macedonia, part of Montenegro, the northern part of Greece, the north-eastern part of Bosnia and Herzegovina, the eastern part of Slavonia (today’s Croatia). City centers were connected in that area.
TAT So, they had cities as we have them today?
SO: Those were not cities as we know them today. Vinča itself, which was at the confluence of the rivers Sava and Danube, had 2,800 inhabitants. Just imagine how large a population of 2,800 was 10,000 years ago, contrary to the notions we`re given about people who supposedly lived in caves and small tribes. Trade took place along the river courses, so the shores and its rivers were trade and communication pathways. It was logical for capital to develop right near the most important European river, named the Danube, which has flown through ten countries with its tributaries to the North (Tisa), to the West (Drava and Sava; through Sava with tributaries such as Vrbas, Una, Bosna, Drina), and the South (Morava). All those river trades and communication pathways ended precisely in the area of former Vinča. It was from there that people went to trade, cooperate and communicate with others, and visit them.
TAT: What else should we know about Vinča being a civilization?
SO: Another characteristic of a civilization is its writing and communication system. The Europeans fiercely dispute this fact. But Serbian experts nowadays agree on all those factors, or rather symbols found on shipments of certain commercial products, not as letters but merely signs or, in the best case, markings of whom the shipment was intended for. Looking at all those symbols, however, it becomes obvious that it was a communication system. Otherwise, if you were to admit that it was an A letter, you would immediately have to admit that it was the oldest one in Europe.
There are four ways to communicate. The first and simplest one is through signs. You draw an arrow and it tells others which direction they need to move in. The second level is a letter. The third is a symbolic script like that of the Mayan civilization. They made symbols that had meaning, and another level is the alphabet, such as the one we have today, comprising 30 letters. The letters themselves mean nothing. It’s only when you combine more of them to form a word that has meaning or a sentence they become significant. With symbols, on the other hand, each symbol had a meaning, a very important, universal meaning. For example, the symbol of the letter A would have the meaning of the process of birth. Some other symbol has the meaning of the process of movement, in the sense of evolution, the passing of time, etc. When you put several symbols next to one another to explain evolution, to tell a story or sequences of the story, you need several pages or even a whole book. At that third level, the level of symbols, they begin to communicate with each other and create a new, synergistic meaning.
The Mayans, for example, employed the most often used symbols in sets of four. Those symbols communicated from left to right and from right to left, creating a new meaning. The first row also communicated with the next one, creating a new meaning again. Also, the first row communicated diagonally with the last one. To explain the four symbols, you needed extraordinary knowledge, education, and experience. Imagine that we had the Vinča script made of symbols, superior to our modern alphabet. The fourth level of communication is communication with so-called energy symbols. One such symbol, for example, in space, considering what it represents, energetically affects its surroundings. I am in favor of the fact that this civilization did have a very complex writing system and one comprised of symbols. That’s one more factor to take into consideration that testifies to Vinča being a civilization.
The next very important element of the Vinča civilization is metallurgy or industry. The first human oasis in Europe that could melt metal was the Vinča civilization. For at least 2,000 years, they were the only ones on the European continent who had developed that industry and used it exclusively for the production of tools and ornaments, not weapons.
TAT: The Vinča civilization was highly developed in many areas, but what about their values?
SO: Only when this skill was mastered in the East (Anatolia), in the West and North of Vinča, armies were formed, with the sole aim of conquering other people’s territories and looting. What happened then was that, from one set of values that Vinča nurtured, another one was imposed. In Vinča, abilities, talents, skills, honesty, trading skills, services, creativity, and productivity were valued. Those were the values of the Vinča civilization. From there, man regressed to the stage we have nowadays all around the world. We became nations and states that have their armies conquering through violence, in unscrupulous ways, each glorifying their ego and imposing a different set of values.
TAT: Is that how such a tremendous and progressive civilization was destroyed?
SO: Unfortunately, yes, it is. And it’s still an ongoing process.
Those who were the first conquerors, who, among others, conquered Vinča too, destroyed that civilization and started dividing this Balkan space of ours, imposing on people their own set of values along the way. This trend later continued. Ancient Greece, with which all of our history textbooks begin, imposed its will on the conquered territories and carried out culturcide where genocide failed. The Romans took over and only improved all these war skills and were, therefore, able to unscrupulously conquer the entire Mediterranean area. Everything just continued on and on with the Middle Ages, with Portugal in the 14th century, Spain and the Netherlands in the 16th century, followed by France, Britain, and finally America in the 20th century. It is precisely their conquering military strategy based on which they set and maintain their supremacy in the world, on pure unscrupulousness and corruption, using instruments such as money to colonize the smaller and weaker states.
Let us jump to the last three years of our existence with the `Corona pandemic` and look at what America and the Federal Reserves (FED) did. They imposed total economic dictatorship in almost the whole world. They ordered a reduction of economic activities, so people’s gross social production decreased significantly. They withdrew a part of the money from circulation given that it must be covered by goods. Then FED printed 3,800 billion dollars and the European Central Bank 6 billion Euros, prohibiting at the same time, small countries such as Serbia, Bosnia, and Herzegovina, Moldova, Macedonia, Croatia, Slovenia, etc. to print their currency. They allowed themselves prosperity and a way out of the crisis and then lent us these worthless papers against interest. These are all ways to keep us exploited. The story of Vinča is therefore much broader than the story of an ancient historical period. It is a story about a set of values, humane values that should be established between people, communities, and states, and decided on inside their communities. That is my view on Vinča.